http://www.cleveland.com/forums/solon/index.ssf?artid=37219
4498.6. Behind the scenes at the secret deer planning workshop
by solonjoe3, 02/09/11 9:23 AM
Re: Friends, you gotta read. PB by butdad, 02/09/11 9:23 AM
Stanek: I’ve asked White Buffalo to come and present their comprehensive management plan for our review. But before I give them the floor, let me say a few things first. You guys are driving me crazy. Save the deer. Kill the deer. Captive bolts. Birth control. Catch and release. Crossbows. Introduce wolves. And now there is even talk of lassoing deer and raising them like livestock. We need you guys to shut up.
We had a perfectly good plan with the sharpshooters and you shut it down. Now it is going to cost us a lot more to start it back up. This is bad planning. Worse still, all the crazies are going to show up at meetings and start calling everybody Bambi killers. That is no way to run a city. We professionals are supposed to make all decisions in secret and you political guys are supposed to pass them on the consent agenda. What were you people thinking?
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Saturday, March 26, 2011
Friday, March 25, 2011
Two Days Makes a Difference
http://www.cleveland.com/forums/solon/index.ssf?extlink?artid=38106
4594.
Two Days Makes a Difference
by SolonDeer, 03/20/11 1:02 AMIn the Solon Times - Despite 'sticker shock' aerial deer count planned 03/16/2011
http://www.chagrinvalleytimes.com/NC/0/2903.html
Councilman William I. Russo said the aerial count "is something that's needed just to make sure the deer count has grown. "If there is no increase in deer count, then there is no justification for doing anything," he said
Yet on 03/18 Russo along with the rest of council voted to proceed with the deer management plan without this count! What a difference two days makes!
Apparently the week started with Russo sure the aerial study would pass, who would even know about the secret last minute meeting early Friday morning.
Well the Patch was on it and blew the whistle: http://bit.ly/hh50a7 which drew lots of comments and an update immediately after the meeting. Hmmm...
http://solondeer.blogspot.com/2011/03/news-mar-2011.html
http://solondeer.com/
http://www.chagrinvalleytimes.com/NC/0/2903.html
Councilman William I. Russo said the aerial count "is something that's needed just to make sure the deer count has grown. "If there is no increase in deer count, then there is no justification for doing anything," he said
Yet on 03/18 Russo along with the rest of council voted to proceed with the deer management plan without this count! What a difference two days makes!
Apparently the week started with Russo sure the aerial study would pass, who would even know about the secret last minute meeting early Friday morning.
Well the Patch was on it and blew the whistle: http://bit.ly/hh50a7 which drew lots of comments and an update immediately after the meeting. Hmmm...
http://solondeer.blogspot.com/2011/03/news-mar-2011.html
http://solondeer.com/
History Lesson
4576.2.
Re: Deer Management by SolonDeer, 03/11/11 3:09 PM
...HISTORY LESSON...
by frankbam, 03/11/11 3:09 PMRe: Deer Management by SolonDeer, 03/11/11 3:09 PM
..in the old west men drove horse and wagon around hawking miracle cures..that probably contained booze and laudanum...today they drive an SUV, make power point presentations, selling streighter lights, proper garden plantings and deer condoms...GO FIGURE..
4576.2.1.
Or more realistically
by SolonDeer, 03/11/11 6:29 PMRe: Deer Management by SolonDeer, 03/11/11 6:29 PM
and relavent to the Wed Safety Meeting, a Hunter goes to the library, learns powerpoint and then comes to tell us that the ONLY solution is more hunting. Sure there's rebound, all the more reason to hunt more. Is it effective? Sure as long as you keep ponying up $200K per year.
Oh by the way where does Scott Peters get most of his funding - HUNTING LICENCES. And here's hunting apologist Russo saying "well you have to get your funding from somewhere".
Can you spell "conflict of interest", apparently not.
Talk about snake oil salesmen, who would buy that crap, most of Solon I guess. Can you pay my share of the $200K every year, because I'm just not that gullible.
Oh by the way where does Scott Peters get most of his funding - HUNTING LICENCES. And here's hunting apologist Russo saying "well you have to get your funding from somewhere".
Can you spell "conflict of interest", apparently not.
Talk about snake oil salesmen, who would buy that crap, most of Solon I guess. Can you pay my share of the $200K every year, because I'm just not that gullible.
Saturday, March 19, 2011
Solon Joe's
4583. Executive session?
by solonjoe3, 03/14/11 9:12 AM
Vice Mayor Krooks: ... Ok, that bring us to deer culling. Councilman Ramone has an interesting idea about using croquet mallets.
Councilwoman VeryRichMond: Mallets? You can’t be serious about croquet mallets?
Councilman Ramone: One hit on the noggin and they are out like a light. What could be more humane? Besides they are rats.
Vice Mayor Krooks: Let’s not debate how we kill them. Let’s debate how many we should kill. Let’s not even debate whether or not they are rats. Let’s instead talk about who to give the contract to and how they will make it worth our while.
Councilwoman VeryRichMond: Well, I surveyed my residents and they are opposed to croquet mallets 87% to 46%-- that is, if I don’t count all people who wanted to answer the survey different than me. Totals can add up to more than 100% if you don’t use excel.
Councilwoman Meaningless: I’m just pleased as punch that you all invited me to these meetings. Is it time for me to abstain yet?
Councilman Moonbeam: We have the money in the capital budget, although as a recurring expense it really doesn’t belong on that ledger, but nevertheless the money is cooked in, so I say we spend it.
Councilman Peanuts: I don’t understand why we have to spend public dollars on things like this.
Councilman Moonbeam: As I’ve tried to explain to you, if we don’t spend all the money we take in, residents will expect us to give some of it back.
Mayor McDrucker: She serves at my pleasure. They all serve at my pleasure. I will not tolerate leaks.
Vice Mayor Krooks: White buffalo has a very attractive offer. Campaign donations, kickbacks, and free venison stew. I don’t see anybody topping that….
Councilwoman Meaningless: I abstain.
Mayor McDrucker: And how do we know Sally wasn’t one of the many leakers?
Councilwoman VeryRichMond: I suppose if we padded the mallets, they wouldn’t hurt as much….
Councilman Ramone: That’s what I was trying to tell you. Whack! One blow. They won’t feel a thing.
Councilwoman Meaningless: I abstain.
Councilman Moonbeam: How much do these mallets cost? We have to be sure to spend the entire budget.
by solonjoe3, 03/14/11 9:12 AM
Vice Mayor Krooks: ... Ok, that bring us to deer culling. Councilman Ramone has an interesting idea about using croquet mallets.
Councilwoman VeryRichMond: Mallets? You can’t be serious about croquet mallets?
Councilman Ramone: One hit on the noggin and they are out like a light. What could be more humane? Besides they are rats.
Vice Mayor Krooks: Let’s not debate how we kill them. Let’s debate how many we should kill. Let’s not even debate whether or not they are rats. Let’s instead talk about who to give the contract to and how they will make it worth our while.
Councilwoman VeryRichMond: Well, I surveyed my residents and they are opposed to croquet mallets 87% to 46%-- that is, if I don’t count all people who wanted to answer the survey different than me. Totals can add up to more than 100% if you don’t use excel.
Councilwoman Meaningless: I’m just pleased as punch that you all invited me to these meetings. Is it time for me to abstain yet?
Councilman Moonbeam: We have the money in the capital budget, although as a recurring expense it really doesn’t belong on that ledger, but nevertheless the money is cooked in, so I say we spend it.
Councilman Peanuts: I don’t understand why we have to spend public dollars on things like this.
Councilman Moonbeam: As I’ve tried to explain to you, if we don’t spend all the money we take in, residents will expect us to give some of it back.
Mayor McDrucker: She serves at my pleasure. They all serve at my pleasure. I will not tolerate leaks.
Vice Mayor Krooks: White buffalo has a very attractive offer. Campaign donations, kickbacks, and free venison stew. I don’t see anybody topping that….
Councilwoman Meaningless: I abstain.
Mayor McDrucker: And how do we know Sally wasn’t one of the many leakers?
Councilwoman VeryRichMond: I suppose if we padded the mallets, they wouldn’t hurt as much….
Councilman Ramone: That’s what I was trying to tell you. Whack! One blow. They won’t feel a thing.
Councilwoman Meaningless: I abstain.
Councilman Moonbeam: How much do these mallets cost? We have to be sure to spend the entire budget.
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